Episode Transcript

Units Of Measure
Episode 71: August 16, 2007

Grammar Girl here.

Today's topic is units of measure—those words and symbols that come after numbers.

This first point might seem self-evident: you put a space between the number and the unit of measure. Even though it seems obvious, I'm telling you because I've seen people do it wrong, and there are also exceptions to the rule.

For example, if you want to say you threw a ball 100 feet, there is a space between the number 100 and the word feet. Obvious, right? But what if you abbreviate feet to ft*? It's the same rule: there's a space between 100 and ft, and if you just think of the abbreviation as the word, it should be easy to remember, but I've seen them squished together without a space many times.

Sometimes I think people get confused because there are at least two exceptions to that rule—percent and degrees—but it helps to remember that these exceptions occur when you are using symbols instead of abbreviations. For example, if you are writing out the words 100 degrees, there is a space between the number 100 and the word degrees, but if you are using the degree symbol, that little superscript circle, you butt it right up against the number without any spaces in between (100°—no space). The same holds true if you want to use the percent sign. Even though you use a space when you are writing out the word percent, if you use the percent sign, it goes right after the number without any spaces (100%—no space).

For the next point, let's go back to talking about feet. The singular is obviously foot, and the plural is usually feet, except when you are using it as a compound modifier. You would say that Squiggly climbed a tree that was 10 feet tall†; feet is plural there. But you don't say Squiggly ran up a 10-feet tree—you say Squiggly ran up a 10-foot tree. Foot is singular when it's part of a compound modifier. That's also true for other units of measure like inches and pounds. Squiggly was running from a 100-pound monster, and he nearly lost his 10-inch tentacles.

Similarly, the abbreviations for units of measure are the same whether the units are singular or plural. the abbreviation is ft. whether it is foot or feet.  Occasionally you will see an s after the abbreviation for pounds, lbs., but it isn't necessary.

Style guides are divided about whether you need to put a period after the abbreviations for English units of measure like feet, inches, and pounds‡. So it's up to you to pick a style and use it consistently. In general, it's more common to use periods in the U.S. than in Britain (1). With the metric system, or more formally the International System of Units, you never use a period after the abbreviations (2).

And here's a bonus: Have you ever wondered why pounds is abbreviated as lb instead of pd or something that relates to how it is actually spelled? As is often the case, it has to do with Latin. The abbreviation lb stands for the Latin phrase libre pondo, which means "pound of weight." There are some really extensive explanations on the web, so I put a few links in the blog.

 

 

* Most style guides recommend writing out units of measure (e.g., feet instead of ft.) unless you are writing a technical or scientific document. Abbreviations are acceptable in tables.

The Oxford Dictionary of English Usage states that “foot” can also be used in this sentence, as in “Squiggly climbed a tree that was 10 foot tall.” It notes that this use is correct, but less common.

‡ For example, The Chicago Manual of Style (14th edition) states that abbreviations are usually written without periods (p.477), but goes on later to give examples with periods. The Modern Language Association Handbook gives examples with periods, but notes that the trend in abbreviations is away from using periods.


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References

 

  1. Wikipedia contributors, "American and British English spelling differences," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. http://urltea.com/1ee1(accessed August 17, 2007).
  2. “Correct SI-metric usage” U.S. Metric Association. April 24, 1007, lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/correct.htm (accessed August 16, 2007).


Diversions

Leet translator (i.e., L337 7r4|\|51470r). (Thanks to King Bonk, of the King Bonk's Campfire Podcast, who brought this to my attention.)

 


Comments (18) for Units Of Measure |  Subscribe to Comment

Michael Piefel Says:
11/12/2008 4:41:30 AM
I know I’m very late to jump in on that, but I’m only slowly catching up with all the episodes. It is correct that good typography mandates a space between number and unit, but to make it really pretty, it should not only be non-breaking, but also a thin space. I guess that is too much for most word-processor users, but if you’re using LaTeX or InDesign, you can do it easily. Another remark regarding the degree sign. It comes right to the number only when talking about angles. When temperatures are involved, there is a space after the number, but none between the degree and the following letter: We have 7 °C in Berlin right now.
Fenouille Says:
12/16/2007 10:34:22 AM
Hello, Grammar Girl. I would like to make two more comments on this subject. 1) Not only is there a space between a quantity and its unit of measure, but for those using a "dumb" word processor like Word, it has to be a non-breaking space so that the following case doesn't occur: "blablabla and it weighs 345(new line)kg". 2) My pet peeve regarding units: Kelvin is a scale in itself. This means no degrees, small o, or anything else is needed when mentioning a temperature in Kelvin. We then have that " blablabla something has a temperature of 270(non-breaking space)K". Cheers :-)
James Clark Says:
9/14/2007 11:48:56 AM
On the magazine I work for, we always put 'abbrieviated' units of measurement touching the number: 30ft, for example. It's our house style; I don't know whether it is a difference between British and American English. Also, in British English it is acceptable if slightly colloquial to use 'foot' in the singular with a number higher than one: "I climbed 30 foot up the tree", for example. The same is true for 'pound' (the currency): "This cost me 30 pound", for example. http://engineroomblog.blogspot.com
Scott Says:
8/23/2007 2:43:08 AM
As the reference to the U.S. Metric Association notes, short forms for SI units are called symbols, not abbreviations. ----- --------
David J Phillips Says:
8/23/2007 2:26:18 AM
Grammar Girl: One other point often overlooked when using the percent symbol. At the end of a sentence, writers will often post 100%. Correct posting ought be> 100 percent. Best--David J Phillips, Publisher www.10qdetective.blogspot.com -----
Carl Says:
8/22/2007 9:31:48 PM
Oh, the whole currency thing is just a horrible mess. Who could make sense of $10.00, 10¢, USD10.00, $10 US - it's hopeless. My 2¢, Carl -----
Carl Says:
8/22/2007 9:29:04 PM
My guess is that one of the reasons people make the mistake of "100ft" instead of "100 ft" is that we had drilled into us in Chemistry and Physics that you should always put the two together. I think this was because "10 m" could be more easily confused as "ten times the variable 'm'". At least that's the way I was taught in high school and college. -----
David Says:
8/22/2007 11:12:42 AM
Dear Grammar Girl: First, I want to thank you for the podcasts. I've been a fan for ages but have never gotten around to commenting. I teach business writing, and I tell my students that we say, for instance, 10-foot ladder (or tree, for Squiggly) because English doesn't have plural adjectives. I have one blue shirt, but not two blues shirts. When "foot" becomes part of the compound adjective in "10-foot ladder," it has to be singular. I hope I'm right in saying that. Any counter-examples? Keep up the great work! David -----
Grammar Girl Says:
8/22/2007 1:02:20 AM
I'm not sure. I got the impression that a lot of people were writing units without the space, and then someone else was confronted with needing hyphens, and instead of trying to explain hyphens to the people who couldn't remember to use a space, someone just threw up their hands and figured allowing people to leave out the space would solve the hyphen problem too. -----
Milan Davidovic Says:
8/21/2007 4:20:34 PM
I'll chime in on this one too: "but if you are using the degree symbol, that little superscript circle, you butt it right up against the number without any spaces in between (100°—no space). The same holds true if you want to use the percent sign." However, see http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-3-2.html#5-3-3 and http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter5/5-3-7.html for the style used by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures, the folks in charge of the metric system. -----
Cecilia Says:
8/21/2007 2:11:50 PM
Hey Grammar Girl! Your podcast on units of measure was good, but I was surprised that you omitted the following situation: At least in the medical setting, when the number and unit are used together as an adjective, you hyphenate them. I'm explaining this poorly. Here are two examples: Aardvark had an unsightly mole measuring 1 cm in diameter on his chin. The 1-cm mole was removed from Aardvark's chin. (Do aardvarks have chins?) Keep up the awesome work! The nation needs you (even if it's true that we're moving toward saying such nonsense as, "Coffee is addicting, even if you get started on accident." (*shudder!*) -----
Comic Book Shaman Says:
8/18/2007 11:27:58 PM
Is is a visual clarity issue? Love Comic Book Shaman -----
Grammar Girl Says:
8/18/2007 10:07:14 PM
If I knew my writing would only reach a U.S. audience, I would write "$99," but if I thought my writing would reach a large international audience, I would write "99 USD." It seems like the polite thing to do. On another note, I had dinner with a friend who is a technical writer last night, and he said his organization has made it their house style to leave out the space between the number and the abbreviated unit of measure. He said they did it so they could leave out the hyphen when writing something like "a 10-ft pipe." It made me wonder if fighting for the space is a losing battle in the long run! I hope not. -----
Evan Says:
8/18/2007 10:07:14 PM
Thanks for writing aboutt this. -----
Anonymous Says:
8/17/2007 9:35:57 PM
Coming from a metric country with close ties to the United States, I've seen the abbreviation 'mi.' commonly used to differentiate miles from metres. Whether grammatically correct or not, I don't know. With relation to the $/USD note, I think the bulk of that comes from international marketing... but is becoming rather useful. After all, it's nice for someone to know if the price they've been quoted (to use your $99 example) is $99 in USD or CAD. Then again, that's just my two cents, which is probably an overvaulation anyway. -----
Terry Says:
8/17/2007 1:33:46 PM
As a recovering engineer, I have tackled this problem many times in the past. However, I am finding this more and more prevalent as a runner and reporting distances in my blog. This episode, helped me correct my habit of not including a space between the number and abbreviated unit. Seeing that most of the world is in the metric system, some races in the US are still using imperial units. In fact, there is a push on having some Collegiate races moved under imperial units. The main reason for this is that American just "don't get" the metric system. If you say "I'm going to run 800 meters", some people stare at you blankly. If you say "I'm going to run a half mile", some people say "better you than me." So when I am talking about certain races, such as a the Big South Fork 17.5 mile trail run, I want my Metric readers to understand the distance and I attach "28.2 km" to the end. What I find is that when I want to abbreviate "miles", I want to use an "m" such as 17.5 m to represent my race distance but that suggest 17.5 meters which is only one hundredth of a mile. Something completely different. It's humorous to think that a metric reading person would think, "Why does it take him over 2 hours to run 17.5 meters, he must be really slow." I guess I am stuck having to write out mile each time, not too complicated. Also to touch on Steve's comment on currency, currency can have the abbreviation coming or going. For example, the American dollar has the fancy "$" preceding it, but you can also use "USD" after the amount to say the same thing. I don't know if "USD" is grammatically acceptable in written text or if it is just a market term. My running shoes cost $99 or 99 USD or my running shoes cost £99 or 99 GBP What's your take on this? Cheers, Terry -----
Steve Says:
8/17/2007 8:24:53 AM
I am a medical writer at a European pharmaceutical company, and I must say that you hit on one of my pet peeves with today's topic. I often see sloppy use of units, even from persons who should know better. I thought I'd chime in on some points that you skipped. First, with the temperature units, it seems to be an open question. The AMA style guide does not leave a space between the quantity and the degree, but other style guides (I believe ACS among them) do. This probably stems from the idea of thinking of temperature either as a ratio or scale, as traditionally described (eg degree Fahrenheit), or as a unit (eg derived from the Kelvin). Personally, I think of all ratio expressions as not using a space, whereas quantities with units do. Except, of course, for units of currency. These (a) precede the amount, and (b) use no space between the symbol and the amount. Yet it is very important for persons learning English as a second language to realize that we say " one hundred dollars", not "dollars one hundred". The third point is has to do with using the correct abbreviations for units. h not hr for hour, s not sec for second. Approved abbreviations and symbols can be found in style guides or at the SI website ( http://www.bipm.org/en/si/ ). I only wish there were an accepted abbreviation for bit and byte. Anyway, enough for flogging the esoterica, there is work to do. Thanks for a great show that keeps me on my grammar toes. -----
Robbie V Says:
8/17/2007 7:00:32 AM
I hate to admit it, but I've actually said 32th "thirty-tooth" (instead of 32nd) a couple of times. Caught myself right way mind you, but though it was funny enough to share. -----

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